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Looking for information

Postby Fitter 669 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:52 pm

I recently found a Conram N-Y 19.19 Pat. Nov 10, 08 sprinkler head, and am looking for any information about this head. I know that Mr. William F. Conran, who I think developed the head. the head had a great failure rate. Mr. Conran was a leader in fire protection in early New York City. And to this day the N.Y.F.D awards the William F. Conran metal. Idid notice in the forum that Mike_ W posted a picture on photobucket of a conran head but it is a little diffrent .
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Re: Looking for information

Postby Mike_W » Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:04 pm

Hi there. You actually seem to know a little more than I do, I wasn't aware of William Conran or his ties to NYC, so that info. is much appreciated, thanks!

I do infact have a Conran, from 1921. Mine is slightly different, and perhaps the most glaring difference is that mine is missing the fusible link. I know a guy from VA who owns a Conran, I think the same type as yours.
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Re: Looking for information

Postby bullheadtee » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:18 am

Thats an odd one. Conran sprinklers are a pendant type valve with a rotating deflector having a ball bearing inside the raceway. The discharge pattern was similar to that of a cellar nozzle. http://youtu.be/Wl3YwcIb2mg. The first models were made in 1908. For some reason this head isn't even mentioned in the Automatic Sprinkler Protection book. When was this taken out of service if you dont mind me asking?
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Re: Looking for information

Postby Fitter 669 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:26 am

To Bullheadtee, I was inspecting a system in 2010 in what now is a Rite Aid pharmacy, during my inspection of the basement i noticed an arm over with a head obstructed above the sheetrock ceiling, Long story short this was the head above the ceiling.
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Re: Looking for information

Postby bullheadtee » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:19 am

Nice find! Wish I had one of those in my collection.
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Re: Looking for information

Postby Mike_W » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:24 pm

Good lord, talk about finding hidden treasure. I think we all wish we could find something like that just hiding behind some sheetrock. That's right up there with those people who find a one of a kind baseball card in there attic.
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Re: Looking for information

Postby Fitter 669 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:35 pm

i'm not a collector, just happened to get lucky. By the sound of it, you guys think that I struck gold. Not that I want to sell it, but what do you think it might be worth ( Ballpark) in the past, any old heads that I have removed except this one and a Grimes Model D 1954 (my birth year) i just mongoed.
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Re: Looking for information

Postby Mike_W » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:57 pm

It's really hard to say, I'm not sure if I have ever seen one for sale before. I think it would be safe to say that you could easily fetch a couple hundred once the collectors have finished beating the shit out of each other for it on ebay. Most of those old heads fetch a pretty penny.

It's clearly up to you what you want to do with it, but if there's any doubt, hang on to it a while, you may never come across another. Of course I'm speaking as someone who collects them, but something like that is usually one of those things I see a lot of fitters hold on to even if they don't collect.

Whatever you decide to do with it, I still think it's cool that you were able to find something like that in such an unusual place. I've heard some really good stories from fitters finding amazing things in the most unusual places around the NY-NJ area.
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Re: Looking for information

Postby cmwright » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:03 am

Like that Conran. I have several 1888 Neracher heads and was wondering if you would be interested in a trade? Let me know. Sorry for the flipped photo!!!!
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Re: Looking for information

Postby sprink.man80 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:50 pm

Do you have any of these left for trade?
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